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Can someone explain where Love to Love came out of? I listened to about 20 seconds of it there and thought it sounded like a bad Journey or Foreigner song. Awful in other words.

Best qb in this draft class.

No he's not even close.

Metallica in '90s. Ditched metal and ended up dressed like gays in make up. Jason fucked off he was that sick.

He watches. He watches.

Can we all agree that Guns are a bigger sell-out than both Aerosmith and Kiss? Fernando would release a coffin if he thought he'd get away with it.

Kiss released two albums with the Thayer-Singer thing. In fact Kiss have released five studio albums since Guns released Use Your Illusion.

There is only one song with the originals on, Ace's 'Into the Void'. No coincidence that it is the best on the album.

Ace Frehley's guitar solos (in the 70s)

Everything about "The End Of The Road" was shit. Looks like they are playing (sans makeup) at this thing in Vegas, there was hope for Ace and Peter for that but who knows. Peter seems to have taken the high road and left it behind. I'm an Ace guy but he's practically catatonic onstage now and deaf as a post. It isn't pretty.

Shit of Gene and Paul to not invite A and P for a few songs on the last tour.

The title of this thread should read which band wear the better wigs, KISS or Aerosmith! KISS had their sliding door moment after Creatures Of The Night where they could have been a metal band but decided to go the glam, and Paul became more camp than a row of tents. But credit to Gene for having the "giving the fans what they want" attitude by doing the KISSOLOGY DVD. Something GNR are to fractured to do. I prefer Aerosmiths music quality of the 80s phase to KISS 80s phase. Though i do have a guilty pleasure listening to Unmasked. I have no issue with Aerosmith using outside writers , its what GNR should have done as an experimentation after the UYI phase. Still cant listen to Aerosmith and think of that shit ballad they did, DWTMAT.

Never got the appeal of KISS. Bunch of fucking clowns

and yet, KiSS retained more credibility than GNR's in their epic 2000 - 2016 run of session hacks. that era was a string of one clown after another, each playing their part in tarnishing the legacy further. They truly were the laughing stock of rock n roll. - "without paul, there is no GNR" - DJ Ashba "better than the old one" - a freak with a KFC bucket on his head - tommy "pijama's" stinson - frank richards - brain / brian - chris "I throw towels" pissman Such damage was done, that when real gunners eventuelly re-joined, even that reunion was stained, till this day.

Psycho Circus was fucking bullshit. I didn't know shit from clay when that album came out but I knew that it sucked. I don't and didn't hate or have a problem with Eric and Tommy being in the band, but making them wear the make-up of A & P was unpalatable. They should have had their own, unique design like Carr and VV. One glance of Tommy Thayer in Ace's make-up to this day still annoys the shit out of me...and I'm not even a "hardcore" fan.

It would have been better if Kiss did the initial reunion tour and folded sometime around 2000 with Ace and Peter intact. Also Psycho Circus where they had session guys was a complete con.

KISS, easily. That last 20 something years with Tommy Thayer as Ace and Eric Singer as Peter Criss was the drizzling fucking shits, and it got even worse when Paul started the lip sync/vocal tracks. Aerosmith had their original lineup* and still kicked major ass right until the end. Their albums may have been ho hum (haven't heard any post 90s) but you could still count on them as a live act.

If you listen to Gene Simmons talk he would tell you selling out was practically baked into the KISS DNA from the very beginning. Aerosmith jumped on the Bon Jovi bandwagon when they came back with the Desmond Child co-written Dude Looks Like A Lady single. It totally worked for Aerosmith. They had a trifecta of huge hit albums with Permanent Vacation, PUMP, and Get A Grip which made them iconic to a different generation of fans than the one who grew up on Toys in The Attic and Rocks.

Went and saw Sinners in movie theater IMAX. Visually stunning and hypnotic film that mixes vampire lore with blues lore. A definite best seen while high movie.

Kiss. They just became an embarrassing joke All I can fault aerosmith with, are the ballads. They retained their classic lineup and absolutely rocked the stage well into their career they even released a brilliant album in the 80s, "done with mirrors"; it contains my favorite aerosmith song (let the music do the talking)

...when they hit the late-70s early '80s doldrums? - Aerosmith, following their heyday, descended to barrooms but then did the Run DMC thing (1986) before bringing in these big pop music song-fixers to resuscitate their career, concentrating on MTV ballads (1987 -1993) over their traditional blues-based hard rock. This got them back into stadia. - Kiss also ditched hard rock and blatantly genre jumped - disco-pop (1979-80), prog (1981) then hair metal (1982 - 1990) - semi-successfully hitting new markets like Oz, Europe and Japan to compensate for America's lack of interest. They then finally reunited in spectacular fashion in 1996. Things however turned sour after 1997: repeating history, they messed-up keeping their original line-up again, bringing in session guys and make-up fakes and spun-out the 'farewell tour' way past the point of decency. Aerosmith more successful retaining their original line-up.

I've lost my enthusiasm for sports. Rodgers was my Brady and now it's just not the same. The players of this era are deeply unlikable and the quality of the game has tanked as well, making it easy to give it up.

I like this song and I liked "Love To Love". I'm glad Axl is putting out these songs though. It's better than nothing, even if his voice is shot.

I'm really excited for Doom The Dark Ages which releases in like 2 weeks. It's like a shiny pearl in a sea of garbage.