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[FATAD]

Axl Rose, Aliens and Arms Dealers

 

Alex Brasky and co-hosts GNRLiars and Wasted of the Bill Brasky FATCAST are joined by Borki to investigate new evidence that Axl Rose is an Alien. We look at the symbolism of the Don't Cry video, Axl's past lives regression therapy, Erin Everly and Stephanie Seymour's relationship to Witchcraft, Axl's Sedona years and the CIA's Gateway Process Astral Projection Report, Chinese Democracy's Alternate Booklet Conspiracies and Riad N the Bedouins, Dictators and Arms Dealers, Axl's Halloween Tree, The Woke Scientology Oscars and Chris Rock's Occult Ego Death Humiliation Ritual and how Will Smith tried to date The Machine.

 

 

Also available on Rumble
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[Borki]

We blow the lid open on all of this.

[Sydney Fan]

Hi guys great fatcast. Can you post the chinese whispers url?.

[FATAD]

13 minutes ago, Sydney Fan said:

Hi guys great fatcast. Can you post the chinese whispers url?.

Links are in the desription of the video on YT

[Sydney Fan]

I never realised Axl was this batshit crazy. 

Is Axls mind still back in the 2000s when he was into this stuff, or still into this life therapy/alien stuff or is his mindset in our reality now?.

Considering he's on meds would be interested to know whether he is a new woke version of himself compared to his pre medicated self as i dont think he was medicated  during his Yoda days.

[wasted]

2 hours ago, Sydney Fan said:

I never realised Axl was this batshit crazy. 

Is Axls mind still back in the 2000s when he was into this stuff, or still into this life therapy/alien stuff or is his mindset in our reality now?.

Considering he's on meds would be interested to know whether he is a new woke version of himself compared to his pre medicated self as i dont think he was medicated  during his Yoda days.

I think we talked about each era of GNR is a new version of Axl, if not a new clone.

 

The idea was also maybe that Axl was compromised because he was so outta control. CD was black balled and now he's an actor for Neo liberalism. 

 

Maybe Beta became his handler after the Alien 90s and Geo political 00s. Axl seems to be back to his blue collar roots now, touring with ACDC and Slash and just doing a victory lap for legacy and nostalgia. 

 

People always say be yourself.

Axl says which one?

[Sydney Fan]

30 minutes ago, wasted said:

I think we talked about each era of GNR is a new version of Axl, if not a new clone.

 

The idea was also maybe that Axl was compromised because he was so outta control. CD was black balled and now he's an actor for Neo liberalism. 

 

Maybe Beta became his handler after the Alien 90s and Geo political 00s. Axl seems to be back to his blue collar roots now, touring with ACDC and Slash and just doing a victory lap for legacy and nostalgia. 

 

People always say be yourself.

Axl says which one?

So we had spiritual/hippie/looking for answers Axl in 2000 and when the RS article was published.

So how do we then go from 2000 version Axl to mr social /braided hair/sasha volka russian prostitute/sebastian bach bbf- 06 Axl?.

When did his interest in past life therapy end?. Its like as soon as he couldnt take down the elitests he suddenly became normalised?.

Still always wonder why he chose Malibu to live.

 

[wasted]

1 hour ago, Sydney Fan said:

So we had spiritual/hippie/looking for answers Axl in 2000 and when the RS article was published.

So how do we then go from 2000 version Axl to mr social /braided hair/sasha volka russian prostitute/sebastian bach bbf- 06 Axl?.

When did his interest in past life therapy end?. Its like as soon as he couldnt take down the elitests he suddenly became normalised?.

Still always wonder why he chose Malibu to live.

 

Ok I see what you're saying. But that 2000 RS is referencing therapy and past lives stuff that started before UYI. Axl was losing it on the UYI tour. Partly that article is the myth that had grown up around Axl and Sedona added to it. But I don't think Axl was as crazy in 2000 as in 91. Axl is writing Madagascar in 1999-2000, he on the comeback trail.  

 

I think Axl was into past lives before 91 or the release of UYI. So the therapy and the Sedona years was the 90s. 

The early 2000s Axl seemed be more into geo politics but the songs Axl was writing taken in chronological order go from TIL, Catcher, Madgascar down and out in 2000 to telling everyone to fuckthemselves with Better, Shacklers, Scraped, Sorry, Prostitute in 2004.

 

2006  Axl was ramping up for the release of CD. My guess is he still holds similar spiritual ideas but is less personally in turmoil from when he was finding out about his past. CD basically chronicles his struggles. 

 

So it was all about building confidence. 

I think in the 2009 fan chats Axl addressed the Sedona years saying he got what basically amounted to a 40k herbal wrap. He was getting ripped off in someway.

 

So somewhere in the late 90s Axl seemed to settle down, after the UYI tour is when he was going to Sedona.

Yoda died in 2007 and CD came out in 08. 

Axl had braids until CD was released. Then he came out for the first CD tour looking more like a rock star. Axl was still pretty crazy until 2010-11. Stopping shows being late but he seemed as they say less bloated and having fun. He wasn't pissed off on stage like the UYI tour. 

It wasn't until TB took over that Axl was being less late and did the Vegas Residency. Which was a nostalgia based thing. Like a precursor to NITL. 

2011 was really the end of CD era. 

 

The 90s were the crazy therapy years, the 00s were more about recovery. 2006 is pretty close to end of the CD creative process.

 

Axl seemed over everything from 2011 on. 

[Borki]

I have a Guitar World (I think? Maybe it’s Rolling Stone or Classic Rock or one of those rock magazines) that is sort of a condensed version of Chinese Whispers around the house somewhere. I should try to find it.

[wasted]

I'm looking for "Bandana on the Run" article as I think it was the first time Axl talked abuse, before UYI came out. 

[wasted]

This isnt the exact article but it's 92 and Axl is talking about re-experiencing his abuse etc.

 

https://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/articles/showarticle.php?articleid=56

 

There is an article with Axl saying he was raped at 2 years old etc. 

 

Your mother married your biological father when she was in high school?

Yeah. My mom's eyes actually turn black whenever it's brought up how terrible this person was. And what I found out in therapy is, my mother and him weren't getting along. And he kidnapped me, because someone wasn't watching me. I remember a needle. I remember getting a shot. And I remember being sexually abused by this man and watching something horrible happen to my mother when she came to ge me. I don't know all the details. But I've had the physical reactions of that happening to me. I've had problems in my legs and stuff from muscles being damaged then. And I buried it and was a man somehow, 'cause the only way to deal with it was bury the shit. I buried it then to survive -- I never accepted it. I got a lot of violent, abusive thoughts toward women out of watching my mom with this man. I was two years old, very impressionable, and saw this. I figured that's how you treat a woman. And I basically put thoughts together about how sex is power and sex leaves you powerless, and picked up a lot of distorted views that I've had to live my life with. No matter what I was trying to be, there was this other thing telling me how it was, because of what I'd seen. Homophobic? I think I've got a problem, if my dad fucked me in the ass when I was two. I think I've got a problem about it.

 

[Sydney Fan]

52 minutes ago, wasted said:

Ok I see what you're saying. But that 2000 RS is referencing therapy and past lives stuff that started before UYI. Axl was losing it on the UYI tour. Partly that article is the myth that had grown up around Axl and Sedona added to it. But I don't think Axl was as crazy in 2000 as in 91. Axl is writing Madagascar in 1999-2000, he on the comeback trail.  

 

I think Axl was into past lives before 91 or the release of UYI. So the therapy and the Sedona years was the 90s. 

The early 2000s Axl seemed be more into geo politics but the songs Axl was writing taken in chronological order go from TIL, Catcher, Madgascar down and out in 2000 to telling everyone to fuckthemselves with Better, Shacklers, Scraped, Sorry, Prostitute in 2004.

 

2006  Axl was ramping up for the release of CD. My guess is he still holds similar spiritual ideas but is less personally in turmoil from when he was finding out about his past. CD basically chronicles his struggles. 

 

So it was all about building confidence. 

I think in the 2009 fan chats Axl addressed the Sedona years saying he got what basically amounted to a 40k herbal wrap. He was getting ripped off in someway.

 

So somewhere in the late 90s Axl seemed to settle down, after the UYI tour is when he was going to Sedona.

Yoda died in 2007 and CD came out in 08. 

Axl had braids until CD was released. Then he came out for the first CD tour looking more like a rock star. Axl was still pretty crazy until 2010-11. Stopping shows being late but he seemed as they say less bloated and having fun. He wasn't pissed off on stage like the UYI tour. 

It wasn't until TB took over that Axl was being less late and did the Vegas Residency. Which was a nostalgia based thing. Like a precursor to NITL. 

2011 was really the end of CD era. 

 

The 90s were the crazy therapy years, the 00s were more about recovery. 2006 is pretty close to end of the CD creative process.

 

Axl seemed over everything from 2011 on. 

Good anology wasted 👍.

Still wonder if yoda told axl to move to malibu cause it would heal his chakras or some spiritual shit.

[wasted]

34 minutes ago, Sydney Fan said:

Good anology wasted 👍.

Still wonder if yoda told axl to move to malibu cause it would heal his chakras or some spiritual shit.

Maybe Axl had pic of his mansion sniffed for vibes. 

[Borki]

There’s also a lot more paranormal and conspiracy references we didn’t touch on. Some bullet points off the top of my head (but there’s more than this)

 

- The official GNR News Letter in the mid 90s was called Conspiracy. And there’s an interview where Duff is interviewed by a friend of the band named “Rhian”. One letter off from Rhiad.
 

- When ET met Axl in 2002 he was asked what the meaning of life was and he answered that his brother in law was a force of evil and he was trying to be a force for good.

 

- In the 90s post Illusion tour but pre breakup Slash bought a house in Beverly Hills that was connected to these underground tunnels. Lots of conspiracy theories revolve around these tunnels under major cities where kids are trafficked. I’m willing to bet it’s no coincidence that Beverly Hills in particular has these tunnels. Slash’s reasoning for buying it was because he wanted to use the basement for a home studio. But I wonder if maybe Axl (who had been growing increasingly paranoid of Slash and even apparently claims to have seen Slash’s soul leave his body when he OD’d), who, considering all he was into, was probably aware of the conspiracy theories about these tunnels, found out about Slash having a house connected to them and got suspicious. When we talked about that Halloween Tree stuff I kinda wondered, like if Axl has two sides to him. One that believes he is moral and just and has to protect children and fight dictators. And then this other sinister side he denies. And maybe projected onto Slash. 

 

- Theres other alien references in the GNR world like the original AFD cover has that monster/alien thing. Which appeared in massive big inflated form on the UYI tour. You can see it at Paris 93 during Jungle.
 

- Also the CD B booklet has more alien references than I realized. The cover art by Shi Lefeng is part of his Red Persons series which he describes as “red ant men” that “appear in anonymous masses to struggle with mysterious actions in a seemingly unlimited space” https://www.artchina-gallery.de/en/artist/kuenstler-p-w/shi-lifeng/ 

I believe one of these CGI red ant men can be seen in the Better video iirc. Haven’t watched it in a while.  

 

Ant men are part of Native American creation stories about inner earth (there are many such stories all around the world that no doubt Axl is familiar with, about these humanoid beings under the surface of the planet) and there was a southwestern native clan of red ant men. http://www.native-languages.org/legends-ant.htm

There’s also many extraterrestrial accounts of insectoid ant beings. 
 

I wonder if there is meaning to putting this art piece showing a red hand that to me appears to almost be pulling puppet strings and then next to that we have “Girl Raped By Alien” with this transparent being (shape shifter? Annunaki? I didn’t even get into Axls 02-07 hair resembling Annunaki…

) having intercourse with a woman. Totally just throwing shit at the wall here but what if this is sort of a confession? Axl saying the rapes happened. But he was possessed or controlled. Or perhaps to hone in on the “two Axls” theory, maybe he’s saying it wasn’t him. It was this other Axl. 

“I’ve got a funny feeling. There’s something wrong today. I’ve got a funny feeling. And it won’t go away.”

 

The ITW and TWAT piece is called “The Visitor”. 
 

 

A lot of these beings in the B art dont seem human really. Could just be artsy symbolism or whatever. But who knows? I mean we know at least three of the pieces are not meant to resemble humans.

 

 

The Rhiad one is called Prisoner 030. If there’s any meaning to that idk. But maybe someone else does. Or maybe it means nothing. Just thought I’d point it out. The Sorry one is called Lizard Part Of My Brain. Another shapeshifting/reptillian/Anunnaki reference?

 

 

On the right here we have “Seated Figure In Robe”. This is where Axl gives his final closing essay and once again mentions Rhiad. 

 

Images taken from http://www.suicideshift.info/discography/chinese-democracy-alternate-artwork.html which also lists the art titles and artists. Higher quality scans (if you want to read the actual text) are available here. http://www.troccolitm.com/CDChiDemRedHand.html

 

- More music video analysis. Watching the videos through the lens of this Fatcast I think some interesting things can be found. One thing I’ve always thought was interesting is during November Rain video at the end when Axl wakes up in his bed in a cold sweat he has wires hooked up to his chest. 

(you can see them clearer in the actual video)
 

- Starting in 1978 Yoda ran a not-for-profit business in Sedona called Arcos Cielos Corp., which loosely translated from Spanish means "sky arcs."

 

- 
"I'll punch your lights out right here and right now. I don't give a fuck who you are. You are all little people on a power trip." These words, the Phoenix Police Department reports, are what Axl shouted at security personnel at Sky Harbor International Airport in February 1998 after a screener asked to search his hand luggage. Threatened with arrest, Axl, travelling in jeans, a red sweat shirt and a gray stocking cap, rejoined, "I don't give a fuck. Just put me in fuckin' jail." He spent a couple of hours behind bars. The matter was resolved on February 18th 19999 when Rose, via telephone, pleaded no contest to a misdemeanour charge of disturbing the peace and paid a $500 fine.

 

Lost in the minor hoopla over the arrest was the matter of what, exactly, Axl was doing at the Phoenix airport. Axl was carrying some presents he'd recently received - "going to the psychic for review," in the words of one knowledgeable source. One item in Axl's bag was a large hand-blown glass sphere. Axl was apparently worried that the security personnel at the airport might break it, and that led to his outburst and arrest.

 

Both of the above quotes (I edited them a bit for brevity’s sake) are from that Rolling Stone article What Happened To Axl Rose? I highly recommend people read. Goes into detail about Axls trauma, belief in the mystical and Yoda. http://www.gnrevolution.com/viewtopic.php?id=3351

[Sydney Fan]

Good post @Borki. 

In terms of slashs Beverley Hills place, in exerts from Slashs book, the band including Axl were rehearsing and recording there  pre Snakepit. Until Slash put the kybosh on that when the whole sessions wernt being productive and Axl was miffed they couldn't record at Slashs anymore and had to go somewhere else.

[wasted]

Does anyone know anything about when Axl bought that Neon Pegasus?

[Borki]

Axl also has a collection of crucifixes for whatever that’s worth.

[wasted]

4 minutes ago, Borki said:

Axl also has a collection of crucifixes for whatever that’s worth.

This is a satan guy move. Also Axl makes like a cross when Jungle starts. Arms out wide like jesus on the cross. 

[suiccidematt]

1 hour ago, Borki said:

 

 

) having intercourse with a woman. Totally just throwing shit at the wall here but what if this is sort of a confession? Axl saying the rapes happened. But he was possessed or controlled. Or perhaps to hone in on the “two Axls” theory, maybe he’s saying it wasn’t him. It was this other Axl. 

“I’ve got a funny feeling. There’s something wrong today. I’ve got a funny feeling. And it won’t go away.”

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As far as I know, Shackler's is about mass shootings

[Borki]

Axl mistakingly putting on two crosses when his demonic possessed body can only handle one, and momentarily spazzing out on stage? 

 

 

[Borki]

7 minutes ago, suiccidematt said:

As far as I know, Shackler's is about mass shootings

It is yeah. We discussed that. But as wasted pointed out, the lyrics on the songs all seem to have multiple meanings. So maybe it’s possible he was trying to confess as well.

 

You could sort of read the lyrics as him being possessed and saying there’s no reason why he does what he does. It just happens. He can’t control it. Using the art piece Girl Raped By Alien and the fact it shows a shape shifting (?) entity raping someone and Axl seems to think he’s an alien or in communication with aliens and spirits or possessed - it’s interesting that it shows this shape shifting being that can pose as human. And it’s raping a woman. Something Axl was accused of multiple times.

 

[wasted]

I think there was also an idea to have Mickey Rourke play The Shackler in a horror themed video. Bucket also called Axl "The Shackler" as if Axl had imprisoned him. 

 

In terms of the band, "don't ever try to tell me how you were there for me" works as a denial of everyone who doubted Axl but now wants to support him. No one is stopping Slash from doing what he wants to do. 

 

So Shackler's has those 3 ways to interpret it. About a political issue, about the release of CD, as the soundtrack to an exploitative horror movie.  

[Borki]

3 hours ago, Borki said:

Lost in the minor hoopla over the arrest was the matter of what, exactly, Axl was doing at the Phoenix airport. Axl was carrying some presents he'd recently received - "going to the psychic for review," in the words of one knowledgeable source. One item in Axl's bag was a large hand-blown glass sphere. Axl was apparently worried that the security personnel at the airport might break it, and that led to his outburst and arrest.

 

Large hand blown glass sphere. Anyone know what that could be? Is that a crystal ball? 

[EstrangedTWAT]

We know exactly what it was and what it looked like.  There were videos all over youtube of the charlatans in Sedona that sold him all that crap.  There was a big thread on the gyna about it.

 

I don't necessarily believe any of this stuff any further than Axl is basically trailer trash from Indiana and that explains everything he's ever done, but it's fascinating how he's almost a Michael Jackson level weirdo that we can craft an other-worldly narrative around.

[LiarzisDead]

2 hours ago, EstrangedTWAT said:

We know exactly what it was and what it looked like.  There were videos all over youtube of the charlatans in Sedona that sold him all that crap.  There was a big thread on the gyna about it.

 

I don't necessarily believe any of this stuff any further than Axl is basically trailer trash from Indiana and that explains everything he's ever done, but it's fascinating how he's almost a Michael Jackson level weirdo that we can craft an other-worldly narrative around.

I'm a firm believer in most stuff cryptid or paranormal/ spiritual. But I also believe that Axl is trailer trash from Indiana. 

With that said, this thought crossed my mind many times while recording but I didn't want to derail the conversation with Wasted and Borki. I was finding it extremely interesting.