15th Anniversary Deluxe Edition of Chinese Democracy

[gunsntortillas]

Any chance we get this in November? 

 

Even something like a limited reissue through RSD or their website with the alternate covers? 

 

Surely, they must know that a short print run would sell out. The vinyl is OOP. People who scooped up the original vinyl in droves for $1 are finally realizing a nice profit on eBay, since they sell for around $100 new (Canadian dollars, so like $10 USD maybe). 

 

If there are no plans to ever release a box set, they should dump all the different versions of the release tracks on Spotify (example: TWAT Axl wheezing up 1.5 DB, complaining to sound guy in mono, etc). 

 

9/10 fans won't pay for or listen to that stuff, but it ensures they get a boatload of streams from the small minority of fans who will listen to all 40 versions of each song multiple times to try and unearth the secrets behind Axl's ways. 

 

If a song like TWAT gets 100 streams a week, if would easily get 100k from the few hundred people listening to each version multiple times. Especially with the possibility of GNR selling their catalogue, this could be a good move to trick people into thinking the material is more attractive than it is. 

 

I personally think he should just dump everything, all 5000 versions of the songs and then the handful of unheard songs with vocals. Move on from the burden of those sessions and give the hardcores what's left so that they can move on with their lives and get married and have kids. 

[Bill Brasky]

If they are not going to re record the completed songs of that era it would be nice for them to do what did with afd box set.

[Trumpy Bear]

Doubt they're doing anything yet.  We probably have six more years before the 20th anniversary box set comes out.  

[gunsntortillas]

44 minutes ago, Bill Brasky said:

If they are not going to re record the completed songs of that era it would be nice for them to do what did with afd box set.

 

As much as I want a box set, we're never going to get it due to lack of interest. Box sets are expensive to produce. Nobody wants Chinese Era stuff except for the hardcores. A digital box set would be a different story as there is no real cost to dumping tracks on streaming services. 

 

They could easily sell out a print run of exclusive vinyl, CDs, cassettes, lithographs, and clothes. There is a lot of interest among collectors and hardcore fans in the alternate covers. Something like 500 of each cover on vinyl. 

 

Given Axl's unwillingness to record new music, they should have Duff and Slash re-arrange and re-record the Chinese stuff. That sort of thing has already been popularized with Taylor Swift having to do it out of necessity due to not owning her masters. The vocals are already recorded. Redo the instrumentals from the ground up, outside of maybe keeping the original drums. 

 

 

[Gordon Comstock]

The 15th anniversary was last year...

[DieselDaisy]

Cockroach Soup #123

 

[Guest]

Chinese Democracy (2029 Version) will change the world with its hard ripping Slash solo and even longer intro

[Bill Brasky]

2 hours ago, gunsntortillas said:

 

As much as I want a box set, we're never going to get it due to lack of interest. Box sets are expensive to produce. Nobody wants Chinese Era stuff except for the hardcores. A digital box set would be a different story as there is no real cost to dumping tracks on streaming services. 

 

They could easily sell out a print run of exclusive vinyl, CDs, cassettes, lithographs, and clothes. There is a lot of interest among collectors and hardcore fans in the alternate covers. Something like 500 of each cover on vinyl. 

 

Given Axl's unwillingness to record new music, they should have Duff and Slash re-arrange and re-record the Chinese stuff. That sort of thing has already been popularized with Taylor Swift having to do it out of necessity due to not owning her masters. The vocals are already recorded. Redo the instrumentals from the ground up, outside of maybe keeping the original drums. 

 

 

Who do you think bought the AFD and UYI boxset ? The hardcore fans that's who. The casual fan will go to a show but probably doesn't even know about the locker leaks.

[EstrangedTWAT]

4 hours ago, gunsntortillas said:

since they sell for around $100 new (Canadian dollars, so like $10 USD maybe). 

 

 

 

The Simpsons in Toronto:

 

[DaddyDont]

Paying hundreds of dollars for a box set of an album that flopped so hard it's still in Dollar Tree 15 years later

 

[Bushwacker DOOM]

The album they released sucks.

 

[maynard]

5 more years until people finally get CD.

[Sydney Fan]

example: TWAT Axl wheezing up 1.5 DB, complaining to sound guy in mono, etc).  

 

Gee i laughed hard!.

[Sydney Fan]

If the band arent interested to pay a bangladesh/pakistani tshirt print company 5.00 to print and upload a CD shirt to sell in their website for 30.00-40.00 what makes anyone think the band are going to invest money in a CD boxset?.

00 to 04 was the biggest musical fuckup of Axls career. A huge what could been.

The Generals failure only reinforces outside of us hardcore fans not many are interested in the CD material.

I agree with @gunsntortillas put all the CD stuff on spotify. 

Even make it look as if they are doing a favour to the fanbase to listen to the material to tie them over until touring resumes in 2025.

 

[username]

5 hours ago, maynard said:

5 more years until people finally get CD.

And by that you mean people will no longer have to pay money for it? Record stores will just give it away? 

 

Either way, still a ripoff. 

[Sydney Fan]

The funny thing is that the merchstore has zero,none, nada Chinese Democracy merchandise.

Its like the band dont want to acknowledge that era.

Like why?. No CD shirt. Not even a CD bottle opener. Its strange .

 

[username]

11 hours ago, Sydney Fan said:

The funny thing is that the merchstore has zero,none, nada Chinese Democracy merchandise.

Its like the band dont want to acknowledge that era.

Like why?. No CD shirt. Not even a CD bottle opener. Its strange .

 

Here, go buy this. 

https://gnrmerch.com/collections/last-chance/products/chinese-democracy-500-piece-jigsaw-puzzle 

 

It's in the Last Chance section, so they probably only have about 100.000 left in stock. 

[username]

https://gnrmerch.com/products/gift-card

 

This is just super cruel by the way. It's basically "here, I'm going to give you a bunch of money... but you can only spend it on the official GnR merch store". That's the kind of thing that would make satan himself cry in the shower while hugging his legs. 

[gunsntortillas]

On 5/5/2024 at 5:23 PM, Bill Brasky said:

Who do you think bought the AFD and UYI boxset ? The hardcore fans that's who. The casual fan will go to a show but probably doesn't even know about the locker leaks.

 

 

According to a post made by Triccoli around when the box set came out, they sold roughly 8500 of the 10k sets. Granted, I don't know if his source was referring to sold or shipped, since there is a difference because anything shipped to a record store by a distributor could still qualify for return.

 

There are different types of hardcore fans. I suspect out of those 8500 nutty enough to buy the Locked N' Loaded before they Slashed the price, only a small portion are also hardcore enough about the Chinese' era to make an equivalent box set viable.

 

 

[gunsntortillas]

1 hour ago, username said:

https://gnrmerch.com/products/gift-card

 

This is just super cruel by the way. It's basically "here, I'm going to give you a bunch of money... but you can only spend it on the official GnR merch store". That's the kind of thing that would make satan himself cry in the shower while hugging his legs. 

 

This is a good gift if you are a selfish person, because you could buy a gift card, use it on yourself, and when you regift the empty card to someone else you know that they are never ever going to use it or check the balance. 

[Bill Brasky]

5 hours ago, gunsntortillas said:

 

 

According to a post made by Triccoli around when the box set came out, they sold roughly 8500 of the 10k sets. Granted, I don't know if his source was referring to sold or shipped, since there is a difference because anything shipped to a record store by a distributor could still qualify for return.

 

There are different types of hardcore fans. I suspect out of those 8500 nutty enough to buy the Locked N' Loaded before they Slashed the price, only a small portion are also hardcore enough about the Chinese' era to make an equivalent box set viable.

 

 

Sir Brazil has a population of 217 million people. 

 

Add that to anyone on the gnr nightrain official site and music collectors , There is definitely a buyer for gnr boxsets even a Chinese democracy one.

[Gordon Comstock]

20 hours ago, Sydney Fan said:

The funny thing is that the merchstore has zero,none, nada Chinese Democracy merchandise.

Its like the band dont want to acknowledge that era.

Like why?. No CD shirt. Not even a CD bottle opener. Its strange .

 

 

Remember this timeline video they posted back in 2017?

 

 

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?mibextid=w8EBqM&v=10155371589173069&rdid=nq6D4qkGcBojP4KL

[DaddyDont]

You also have to remember that as part of the partnership, Duff and Slash have to sign off on anything that gets released under the GNR brand name - since putting out demos they're not playing on wouldn't earn them any royalties, there's no point for them allowing it

 

I think the most you'd see is a new pressing of the original album with corrected artwork to make Axl happy, and then Oh My God/Absurd/Hard Skool/Perhaps/General on a bonus disc. That way everyone gets paid.

 

Maybe a few live tracks from 2001-2014 to flesh out the bonus disc, but I'm not sure what shows were recorded on multi-track and would be high quality enough for proper mixing.

[Bill Brasky]

1 hour ago, DaddyDont said:

You also have to remember that as part of the partnership, Duff and Slash have to sign off on anything that gets released under the GNR brand name - since putting out demos they're not playing on wouldn't earn them any royalties, there's no point for them allowing it

That agreement is for everything they recorded back before NUGNR.

 

Axl owns the band name.

Hence Chinese democracy.

[wasted]

They should re-release Riad n the Bedouins as the single for the CD boxset without the intro and with Slash and Duff adding parts.