AxlisOld Posted December 10, 2023 Posted December 10, 2023 2 hours ago, The Monkey said: Hope youre watching the directors cut Details, because I fucking love that movie. Quote
DieselDaisy Posted December 10, 2023 Posted December 10, 2023 I haven't seen Payback since it came out at the cinema. Due a rewatch. George A. Romero's The Crazies I.e. ''Covid the film''. Like most of Romero's films it is unbelievably cheap. Romero's style of directing was just to grab a bunch of his Pittsburg friends and film reels of footage while drinking beer and smoking weed. He'd then cobble a film together in the editing process. This is how all his early stuff was made including Night and Dawn. The Crazies is a good film. For all its faults (choppy editing, muffled sound, wooden acting) it has a real heart: gutsy '1970s studenty filmmaking. It is interesting how Romero reutilised various themes and ideas from Night of the Living Dead and would later re-work them into Dawn and Day of the Dead. The Crazies has, - Docu-style directing depicting institutional chaos which you see at the beginning of Dawn - existential biological pandemic threat - Military gone mad (Day of the Dead) - People holed up in buildings and survivalism in general The Amusement Park This film from 1975 was literally a lost film until 2017 when a print turned up and Shudder released it. It is an extended short, that was commissioned by the Lutherans to combat ''ageism'' so it has a polemical function. Romero's social consciousness at work again. You can see Romero was actually quite a surrealist director in this. It is a sort of Kafkaesque nightmare - some Fellini elements present. Quite studenty. Worth a watch but probably not something you'd watch again. Quote
DieselDaisy Posted December 10, 2023 Posted December 10, 2023 9 hours ago, arnold layne said: Time has just passed Disney by. Even bringing back the old CEO cannot save them. I think part of the problem is that other companies do what Disney do for less of the cost. The competition of capitalism. Here are a few examples. 1. The theme parks. Disneyworld is probably the most expensive theme park in the US. While it's upkeep and sheer size cannot be matched, I think a lot of consumers are willing to go to Cedar, Six Flags or Universal where the rides are better for 2/3rds of the cost. 2. ESPN. ESPN is very costly, but watching sports and sports commentary doesn't have to be. Why would you spend $20/month for ESPN when you can watch CBS and FOX NFL games for free on Sunday? ESPN MNF is super easy to pirate and so is every other NBA, NFL, MLB, CFB game. No reason to pay for it. And sports talk shows are free everywhere. DraftKings Network and Stadium are free on Pluto TV. They have the the same buffoons talking at the camera about sports. The exact same show under a different brand. At no cost. 3. Disney content. Marvel is the most popular superhero franchise but it's on the downturn. There are still those types of people who prefer DC over Marvel. Besides Marvel, Disney has lost complete original creativity. Remaking the classics is lazy and everyone knows it. Remaking old shows isn't working for them either. 4. Mickey Mouse. Mickey Mouse may have been popular with your Grandma, but there was about thirty years where they didn't even bother making Mickey Mouse cartoons. A whole three generations don't get the Mickey Mouse nostalgia. Their face of the franchise is lost to millions of young adults and children because they never grew up with him. They started making new Mickey Mouse shorts. They are amusing, but it's just another cartoon with so many shows now. Maybe in the 1930's cartoons were revolutionary. Today, there are hundreds. Competiton has caught up to Disney. This is Murrell's working out of their 2023 losses, This is unprecedented loss. 1.3 bn! Quote
wasted Posted December 10, 2023 Posted December 10, 2023 11 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said: This is Murrell's working out of their 2023 losses, This is unprecedented loss. 1.3 bn! Black Rock probably gave them 100 billion to have a lesbian Miss Marvel. Quote
Guest The Monkey Posted December 10, 2023 Posted December 10, 2023 6 hours ago, AxlisOld said: Details, because I fucking love that movie. It's been awhile but the Director's Cut is the movie the Director wanted to make - darker, more violent, and has a completely different ending. The studio interfered, hired a replacement director, which resulted in the theatrically released one. I think they removed Lucy Liu's prostitute character too. The Directors Cut came out in 2006. Quote
DieselDaisy Posted December 10, 2023 Posted December 10, 2023 4 hours ago, wasted said: Bonkers film. The period when Jagger was porking Anita Pallenberg leading to the Jaggers-Richards feud. Quote
Guest Ragnar The Rape Enthusiast Posted December 10, 2023 Posted December 10, 2023 I have to join in singing praises of Killers of the Flower Moon... An absolute masterpiece. Scorsese's crown jewel... Everyone delivered great performances... 10/10... Quote
MAGATRON Posted December 10, 2023 Posted December 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Ragnar said: I have to join in singing praises of Killers of the Flower Moon... An absolute masterpiece. Scorsese's crown jewel... Everyone delivered great performances... 10/10... LOL Quote
AxlisOld Posted December 10, 2023 Posted December 10, 2023 Flower Moon. It was good. I never really understand when people say "masterpiece." It was a good movie, it takes a lot to make me feel white guilt but this certainly did. They didn't even have to exaggerate what happened, it was actually that bad. Quote
wasted Posted December 10, 2023 Posted December 10, 2023 It might be a masterpiece in that it doesn't go out of it's way to entertain for the sake of it. It was dark and didn't sugar coat it at all. The Aviator could have been darker but it made pissing in jars seem like a fun time. Quote
Guest The Monkey Posted December 11, 2023 Posted December 11, 2023 How did the Osage make their fortunes? Quote
Guest Ragnar The Rape Enthusiast Posted December 11, 2023 Posted December 11, 2023 7 hours ago, MAGATRON said: LOL Took you long time to type this, I figure.... Quote
Guest The Monkey Posted December 11, 2023 Posted December 11, 2023 The Cat Returns They don't make 'em like they used to. The ending gets into weebville a little too much for my taste but very charming story. Quote
wasted Posted December 11, 2023 Posted December 11, 2023 8 hours ago, Ragnar said: I have to join in singing praises of Killers of the Flower Moon... An absolute masterpiece. Scorsese's crown jewel... Everyone delivered great performances... 10/10... Positivity from Ragnar. Maybe the world isn't ending? 1 1 Quote
DieselDaisy Posted December 11, 2023 Posted December 11, 2023 Knightriders It is the ultimate Romero film according to my description above about grabbing a bunch of Romero's pals and filming tons of footage in the Pittsburg area while drinking beer and smoking pot - the shoots in (early) Romero films always look like everybody is having fun and the finished product is only secondary. And it is a thoroughly bizarre ''hippy'' film; astonishingly it came out 1981 yet it feels like it should've come out 1969-1973 - Easy Rider is certainly a big influence. It doesn't always work. There is a lot of crowd scenes and scenes that have clearly been ad libbed, i.e., a lot of extra padding whilst the plot is rather loose and lost in the film. Yet it has a lot of spirit, a ''feel good'' quality even: except for the corrupt cop the film doesn't really possess a clear antagonist. Romero's social consciousness is present in the corrupt cop and an attack on commercialism (''selling out''). It is worth a look. Not a great film but likeable and chaotic. Romero's filmmaking is all about the editing. He is the opposite of Hitchcock: whereas Hitchcock would have everything storyboarded in advance so that everything filmed is what makes it into the film and there is a sort of economy of direction, Romero just films and films and films and cobbles a print together in the editing suite. Quote
Guest Ragnar The Rape Enthusiast Posted December 11, 2023 Posted December 11, 2023 11 hours ago, wasted said: Positivity from Ragnar. Maybe the world isn't ending? Don't get ahead of yourself.... Quote
wasted Posted December 11, 2023 Posted December 11, 2023 6 hours ago, Ragnar said: Don't get ahead of yourself.... I feel like only goat comments bring out the full Ragnar. Quote
Guest Posted December 12, 2023 Posted December 12, 2023 20 hours ago, wasted said: Positivity from Ragnar. Maybe the world isn't ending? He saw the Romanian version - Killers of the Flower Goat. A very sad story about gypsies in the 2020s being exploited for their goats. Quote
wasted Posted December 12, 2023 Posted December 12, 2023 Just now, bacdi the ape enthusiast said: He saw the Romanian version - Killers of the Flower Goat. A very sad story about gypsies in the 2020s being exploited for their goats. Gypsies marrying goats to inherit the land. A conspiracy to rival LBJ orchestrating the Assassination of Myles Kennedy. Quote
Guest Posted December 12, 2023 Posted December 12, 2023 On 12/5/2023 at 7:32 AM, The Monkey said: The final radio talkie scene is the most shitlib moment ever put to film. It made me dislike the entire movie. I agreed at first but it's grown on me after finding out why he did it. He basically accomplished two things with the ending. 1. Providing a conclusion to a story that never really had a proper satisfying ending 2. Scorsese acknowledging through his cameo that his movie is an imperfect Hollywood-ized version of the story, not that much different than the radio show the scene is depicting. Without the cameo the scene would come across as an elitist basking in his own perceived righteousness, but by inserting himself into the scene he acknowledges that he too is part of the shit. I've already watched the movie 3 times, absolutely love it. Quote
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